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of FANS! by T. Campbell


I sort of identify with tim. Only I'm not so fat.
Ok now I'm sounding pathetic.. I'm wiser than tim and older... umm yeah.

Anywho this is a realy neat comic about the fandom itself.
Much of it focuses on the basic moral that SiFi isn't some pathetic pastime as often believed. It gives rise to new ideas allowing individuals to invent things years before the technology exists and begin the debate about how those technologys might effect life for good and bad.

Debate that spurs both techno ethics and techno develupment. Instead of just avoiding the technologys all together but develuping ways to avoid the problems years before the technology is even possable.

At the same time addressing cultural and political issues that may result.

The comic shows how the creative mind is feared by those who can only see bad things.
Groups who try to ban creativity. Attempts to ban role playing, types of music, types of video games, books, websites, etc.

I just got through reading a rather grotesc story where human canabalism was legalised. Thow I'm not intrested in reading ferther installments I do recognise what the author is trying to say. However I wish he could have done it in a far less disgusting mannor the fact is my distast for that preticulare story dose not invalidate it.

Ug but I'm gona have some nightmares for a while...

That is the point. Not everyone can handle everything out there.
And on that note the moral of that horrific story I refered to before is touched on here.
Once you justify something it's easier to justify other similar things.

Ok sorry anyway FAANs makes the point that creativity is important and it's not something to be affrade of.
Just becouse you don't like the way a story runs dosen't make the story invalid.

Much of it is about the contrabutions to socity that result from the fandom.

I preticuarly liked the god who offered to spread the message of the fandom as a religion....
You can take anything to far.
Review by Jeffery McLean Sun Jul 13 2003 12:11 AM

Art

The art in this comic tends to change a lot, almost every story line actually, but for the most part it is always well done, a few parts are drawn rather differently and harder to read. I thought the variance was a neat addition, and varied it was, from cartoon style, to pencil sketching, to even just little happy faces just speaking text on the page, it was always different and adding more of a feel of each story arc.

Chars
The Characters in this story are, I think, very well written, they do tend to follow a stereotype, but that is how the chars. are created, they grow and expand, still staying within the bonds of their characters but changing to be a bigger more dynamic person, the characters are one of the things I really enjoy about this comic, they are expressive, destructive, able to be hurt, physically and emotionally and even spiritually. They just seem so much more real, and you can understand them, and even feel from their perspective. Very well done.

Story
The Story is very diverse in this comic, and each seems to resolve around specific and named story arcs, each which usually brings whole new elements into the comic. A wide variety, though almost entirely revolve around a science fiction theme, from vampires, to aliens, to black ops, time travel, etc. but there are elements which aren’t. A fight against cancer, sordid back stories, love triangles, you know all the usual things that make stories great. A great blend of differences, and always something new, interesting tie-ins to other comics, and a great enveloping unfolding story.

Page design
Very intresting page design, usually just white with comic on top but it changes, again a very good use of diverse mediums, the use of scrolling to page to add elements, sideways, or downwards, this was particularly effective in some of the earlier strips.

Overall
8/10 Wonderfully done comic, well written almost always well drawn, very diverse elements, a pleasure to read, and to discover what is going to happen next
Review by Jordin The Learned Sat Jul 12 2003 10:29 AM

A review of Faans
by Kajamir the Giant

This week's selection is a rather lengthy archive. In particular, I bring this up because I haven't had the time to read the entire thing, but went up to about mid 2001 from what I could tell. Since Faans tends to involve in storyline several times, try not to hold me to things that occur later.

Faans, in most accurate description, evolves several times. Art, story, characters, presentation, content, everything at some point, changes. For the most part, this is a good thing since Faans is not overly impressive at the start. However, where evolutions occur, so does the opposite.

Starting with the art, it's decent. A clean, sort of cutesy without being sugar laden style is used, alongside several guest artists who do the characters justice. The main style, while acceptable, didn't appeal to me. I could never shake the feeling that everyone looked like misfits from the Archie Comics universe, most notably the faces of Riik and his girlfriend. The style is largely simple with minimal backgrounds, doing it's job but earning no particular accolades from me, despite being black and white.

The writing is a little strange here. At the start, things are kind of soft hearted. Later on, however, the plot becomes obsessively enmeshed in exploration of dominatory issues for some reason, ranging from government mind control to semi-explicit bondage scenes. I would liken the effect of Alvin and the Chipmunks going to GTA's Vice City.

After a while, I started finding the control themes boring. The comic had become a mild intrigue/persecution based thing, the changed feeling maybe too radical for my tastes. I'm sorry, but I just don't buy that a group of fantasy/sci fans cohesively becomes a self contained and effective, para-military group and then joins up with everything they opposed for a long time. The plot line is all over the place and usually absurd as a soap opera. The story shift to this new theme didn't work with me, but made me wonder if the creator just got bored with what the original premise seemed to be concerning. Although in all fairness, the fighting against the government was at the start, it just seemed more innocent in content. There were some good places in the story, but as such, I didn't like what Faans became.

Faans runs heavily on its characters, like a tank's treads. In this case, even with all the governmental manipulations being traded back and forth, it's very much integrated with the characters themselves. And if you can judge what I thought of the story to correlate here, you've got my opinion spelled out on the Faans.

I never entirely bought the whole deal of this group, with the aforementioned mentioning of the sci fi club becoming paramilitary and so on. Rather than have very expressive personalites, in my opinion, these people had maybe one or two characteristics, which were submerged to show off their talents. It was more like looking at a dossier of a special forces team. 'This one is a fighter, this one knows how to hack computers, this one does espionage, etc'. Now, they do have their moments where there's no content other than interpersonal interaction, but I didn't like it at all. The conclusions characters came to made little sense. Believability, as far as I'm concerned, doesn't exist here.

1. A straight laced religious goody two-shoes marries in relatively short order, a crazed excitement junky who talks like a turn of the century Boston street urchin, whose going to die in four years of a blood disease. Their first meeting? Him bleeding on the floor of a convention, while the chick looks at his open wounds and gets physically excited. Very romantic. The two later spend large amounts of inappropriate time dealing with a love/hate relation with BD/SM. Huh?

2. The romance manga loving character falls instantly in love with an alien who can't communicate beyond pictographs in thought balloons and looks like nothing more than a red floating square with eyes. She immediately falls in love with the thing for some reason, gets impregnated in the brain and gives birth just as quick, and soon is dragged off into outer space. Finding she can't breathe, the alien sets her back down to the planet allowing her to live, and she becomes angry about it. I suppose dying in the frigid vacuum of stars next to a loved one is better.

3. The renn faire enthusiast tells her 'best friend' how she's so used to being the 'strong' one in character. Past history shows, she's anything but. She's the first to become mind controlled, as a result of her out of control ego and need to be popular. She gleefully manipulates her boyfriend whom treats her chivalrously. She has a weight problem she never entirely deals with. She loses control as leader to the group. The creator has her say this with no implication that her friend or anything would think otherwise, which leaves me wondering if the past simply never existed for this character.

The list goes on with such problems. They really took away my attempts to enjoy Faans' writing.

What the others saw in this webcomic, I didn't so much. Faans, as far as I'm concerned, has immense writing problems. The active use of X-files characters as notable side characters, the constant O. Henry twists, the rationales/conclusions that don't add up, the total lack of realism while enforcing a semi-serious tone... I can't look around this sort of thing. Faans has its moments, but I can't get past the important content issues.

I'm giving Faans a four of ten stars at the very most. Chances are on a dull day online, I'll possibly go to read some more, but that's about it.
Review by Kajamir the Giant Fri Jul 11 2003 06:07 PM

Faans is a comic that I've followed for a while now. Not for a remarkable stretch of time, mind you, but a while.

Art: The art for Faans isn't that complex, but I think it's a good fit for the story. There are few times where the scene isn't clear, or that I can't immediately tell what something is. The guest artists are interesting, but also somewhat annoying for the break in style.

Characters: At first, this was the weakest point of Fans. The characters looked a lot like the stereotypes, and acted like it as well. Admittedly, there are real people who act in the worst way....but for that reason, I don't need to see them in a comic. However, over time, it's become the strongest point to me. It doesn't mean that the characters have just turned around. But they've become more complex as the comic has gone on, both from more knowledge of the past and the events in the strip itself.

Plot: The initial plot of Faans left much to be desired, but again, it has slowly improved. The latest plots have been somewhat farfetched, but they've also been quite realistic-in fighting a war, there were casualties, and those who survived have been altered by it. It's much deeper now than before.

Writing: I think this is another strong point of Faans. While you have the strange and important events, the characters aren't neglected when that happens-they react as themselves, rather than changing until the crisis has passed. And those who have flaws, still have them-and while they may overcome it, they may also get new flaws in exchange. Unfortunately, pacing is a problem at times-it was much more pronounced at the beginning, but it still becomes an issue at times.

Overall: I like Faans, a lot. It doesn't concentrate on the fanboy aspect as much as it used to-which is both good and bad. Instead, it's moved beyond that, and takes the subject much more seriously. However, I do worry about the future of Faans. I think it has potential for both a great end-and a great disaster.

I give Faans 8 out of 10. It's a good comic, with solid writing and characters. However, it had a shaky start, and occasionally drags in telling its story.
Review by Benor Wed Jul 09 2003 11:47 AM

I'll say right off the bat that this is the type of comic strip I enjoy, so my review may be favorably influenced by that.

Art: Well, they used occasionally used different art styles in the strip, so it's not exactly easy to give this a straight rating...I thought that all the different styles were quite well done, though the style used for the Civil War story arc was a bit too sketchy for my liking.

Seven out of ten Acoustic Albatrosses

Storyline: The goals and objectives are rather simplistic. Aliens, vampires, evil government conspiracies...yet all of these are, while being a parody of other things, much deeper than they first appear.

Eight out of ten Stereotypical Stenographers

Characters: The characters start out as two-dimensional people, rather like the storyline...and like the storyline, quickly become deeper and more complex. It's not [idespite the stereotypes they resemble, it's because of the stereotypes they resemble that they grow so complex...

Quote:

"How could you defy your own personalities?"

"People change."




Eight out of ten Charred Clickers

Overall: The art was done well, and both the characters and storyline intrigued me...I'll definitely keep reading this one.

Eight out of ten Overbearing Oxen
Review by Luthorne Sun Jul 06 2003 12:47 PM

Offsite Review Summaries

"Fans (also known as Faans or Fans!) is a webcomic by T Campbell, concerning the exploits of the Science Fiction Club of the fictional Billberg University (loosely based on William and Mary in Williamsburg, Virginia). Though starting out as ordinary fans of science fiction, fantasy, comics, and role-playing, the members of the club soon find themselves having to confront mad scientists, aliens, governmental conspiracies, time travel, and other adventures." more...
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Visitor Reviews & Comments

Odd... I would consider this one of the one or two best-written webcomics I know of, and even if I reserved a ten out of ten rating for only the best of the best, it would still receive it.


I guess the over-the-top characters and plots are a matter of taste. It isn't realism by any stretch of imagination, and if you object to that, then you probably aren't going to be too pleased with it. But if you're willing to accept crazy sci-fi adventure and characters that run a little closer to the mythic than the realistic, its a dang smart comic.


The story starts with this straight-forward, innocent, us-against-the-badguys, metality, yes. And yes, that isn't original, and yes, it's a bit silly, though I find it charming as well. But the stereotypical people it begins with start changing, they learn, we discover things about them, it all grows more and more complex. And, no, it's never all that subtle, but even in those bold, black-and-whites, T Campbell has some interesting things to say about people.


For me, Fans lives for those moments when the whole viewpoint of the world shifts just a little, and we realize we aren't looking at what we thought we were looking at. Sometimes it's this shocking plot twist, but that's not so much what I'm talking about. It's the moments when we realize that a character becomes more than their stereotype-- better, worse, or, best of all, some sort of sidestep that doesn't fit that dichotomy. The characters learn this too. They start out as stereotypes, and they think of themselves that way, and then another piece of their solid-coloredness breaks off or coalesces back to them in a new direction, and they are just as much larger than life is, but not in the familar uninteresting ways they were before.


I called Fans "smart" before. I think it is. I think the best quality of T Cambell's writing is that he is always and constantly aware of the ramifications of his plot points, character traits, or each and every statement that his people make, and he always--Always-- doubles, triples, and quadruples back to add another, more complex point of view to what we thought was blindingly simple.


Fans is not a depiction of real people or the real situations people live in, and any attempt to view it in that light is going to reflect on it horrendously. I think its relationship to reality is of a different kind than that, for its twists and turns are as if projected onto a huge screen.


But they are wise, and fresh, and interesting, and subtle, for all that.

Review by Noel Mon Apr 18 2005 01:52 PM

Fans! was an interesting comic with a number of clever style choices to get you deeper within the cast member's heads, and to keep it from being samey. Sadly, it started getting TOO "creative" in how it told its story, and they made the ultimate bad mistake of making it pay to view, which killed off a comic that was already hurting. As far as I am concerned, it stopped being important the second it went pay to read. Even the terminally overrated Megatokyo was smart enough to keep the comic free and release a trade paperback version for those who are interested.

Fans! killed itself off.
Review by Captain Rufus Fri Jul 23 2004 12:30 PM

It's not the best comic... and it's not the worse comic... but... Ok, who am I kidding, it's not even a good comic. >_<

A two out of 10 stars, because the art actually looks like people.
Review by User37 Tue Apr 13 2004 07:22 PM

On one hand, I can totally see what you're saying and agree with you on that point alone, that there are such people out there. I'm not debating that.

Rather, I wasn't partial to FANS execution of many of it's characterizations, and by the time that progressed to my example in question, I felt like some sort of more relevant attention should have been paid attention to it by the other characters by that time. Because they didn't acknowledge her problems at that point without her crown on, it looked more like a plot hole or just bad writing. While I see your justification for the comic's merit in that sense, given how I felt about the many other flaws it had when I reviewed, my opinion is changed little concerning that moment.
Review by Kajamir the Giant Fri Apr 09 2004 01:25 PM

Re Kajamir's comment on "renn faire enthusiast", I know of someone who, while not the physical double of the character, has the identical "super-power" of rewriting history to fit her perceptions. People like this exist. Many of them even integrate into their society quite well. Faans simply points out some of the problems of trying to live with that mindset
Review by Soren the Lurker Nyrond Mon Mar 29 2004 02:54 AM

I'd read Fans! faithfully for a year, and liked it once in awhile, but for the most part it just didn't make sense. The plotlines could be summarized as "Stuff happens! The End!"
I was raised by a pack of SF/D&D Star Trek/cosplay maniacs myself, so I thought that at some point I would identify with the characters in the comic, but I didn't. For one thing, they never seemed to have any fun. Always obsessing about something; sheesh.
Review by damage.com Sun Sep 21 2003 02:21 AM

I found some of the story arcs to be much more interesting and well done than others. This is to be expected with the constant change in the artist. It's a middle of the road strip that is ocassionally good.
Review by Jordan Tue Aug 26 2003 10:36 AM

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