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of Shifters by M.Tary and James Strocel


I also would like to sign in on the list of "occasional" reviewers. Can't be sure how often I'll have sufficient time to go through an entire archive.

I think most everyone else has summed up my major complaints regarding this strip. At the beginning, the characters were practically indistinguishable from one another. (I didn't realize Ferrah's mom WAS her mom until the second appearance of the character in the storyline. She looks 'waaay too much like all the other teenage girls to distinguish her as an adult character.) Not only are all the girls done from the same cookiecutter, but greatgawdalmighty does EVERY female in that universe have boobs out the wazoo? Between the unremitting voluptuousness of all females and the incessent shedding/shredding of clothing, I was starting to feel like I was reading an illustrated version of some teenage boy's fantasies.

Obviously I'm not a cheesecake fan.

The plotline was jerky (as in a film missing action frames jerky, not stupid jerky), which I found annoying. The lettering problems, coloring which made actions hard to decipher and multitudinous interweaving plotlines were all drawbacks in "getting into" the story and developing any feelings for the characters.

I will admit that towards the end, once I finally got a handle on what was supposed to be going on, I began to be intrigued by the characters and the general story. Since I don't follow Manga or gaming, any derivative aspects totally escaped me. However, the annoying elements I noted were not really offset enough that I have any interest in going back to this world to follow the story further.

All in all, Shifters rates as a "dead link" on my bookmarks list. I won't be visiting again.


Sekhmet
Review by Sekhmet Thu Jan 23 2003 11:51 AM

Heh... Sorry FP, but considering the current list of reviews and my actual memory span I decided to read the archives a bit again to be fair. Something I find that always brings back spots you'd forgotten or glossed over initially...

And with that...

Characters
Well as many have already said, the characters themselves are highly similar. A lot of this is due, in part perhaps, to the artist's apparent novice status. Much of the character designs are similar, the only real things changing are hairstyle, proportions, eyecolor and clothing.

When.. oi, I think it's Nikki... the assasin from Ferra's H.S., makes a return in the second chapter I first thought it was Ferra herself. Really it seems the only difference between them is the fact that Nikki has those two ponytails..... which appear to just sort of hang there..... without any kind of ties.

Later on though with the introduction on the Wolf Pack you notice a bit more work on varying the actual character's overall apperance, rather than minor alterations of the same type. I enjoyed this and it did coincide with the artist's growth in other areas.

Art
As I'd stated above the artist has improved since this comic first came out. Though I do agree that backgrounds are still a fault, the general anatomy and character design aspect has been enhanced to level of palpatable.

Although it seems from the beginning that the artist tends to have a greater ability with the "half", or furry, forms. Maybe it's just me, but she seems to be able to carry out this look better than her humans at first.

Development
Progression in the story is..... fast. Generally things wind forward without any true concern for the minor details that would build the characters more.

My biggest concern in this was distinctly during the early parts of the comic during the dance.

This was a prefect chance to round out more of the character's subtle natures. Their actions and emotions, attitudes, and mannerisms. Secondary or future characters could have been introduced as well, The guy that both Kat and Ferrah are interested in for example. Instead it is simply glossed over and we're next greeted to the girls walking in the park.

The flow of the story, it's progression is ungodly fast at times and this is just unnecessary and a distraction.

This fact is not aided by the "missing spaces" in action panels. In the comic where Ferrah was falling from the plane, I first wondered what the hell was going on.

Overall
Overall I enjoyed the comic. Though it has it's flaws the improvement over it's lifespan keeps me coming back. If it weren't for improvements I probably wouldn't even have dared keep up with the comic the lettering in the first page was unbearable.

But I find promise, if not in the comic itself, then in those who work to give it life. I'm keeping it in my bookmarks if only to see how the comic itself progresses. Though I may not view it all the time, it's something I'll keep up on.

Rating: 3 out of 5 dead boyband members.
Review by Teri Dehvis Thu Jan 23 2003 01:24 AM

I'll list this as the reason I should visit Pitch more often.

I'll take a shot at this club, if no one minds. And when I finish Shifters, give my own opinion.

EDIT-And having done that....

There are parts of Shifters that I liked, and some interesting ideas. Unfortunately, those ideas were all small ones (such as the man who sold his body as advertising space). For the overall plot, I'm not that impressed. The idea of a "force of change" has been done many times. This, in and of itself, isn't a problem. However, there is very little different about Shifters in that regard, and I found myself finishing it more to say I had than out of actual interest.

I think the lettering is a concern at the beginning, but it improved as it went on. So did the art, along with the connections between strips. On occasion, though, it seemed as though they missed part of the action, because the connections didn't quite make sense.

In many ways, it seems like the product of two White Wolf fans, primarily WereWolf ones. It's not a direct take off of White Wolf's systems, fortunately, but a lot of the ideas there either parallel or come from those systems.

The main issue, to me, is that the script needs to be refined, and the characters given more time to develop. At this point, they've been thrown into so many situations that everything has been a reaction. And the dream sequence/flash back that's happened was a poor effort at character development.

I think there's good things in there, but it'll take work and some time off to bring them out. 4 out of 10.
Review by Benor Tue Jan 21 2003 06:24 PM

It was amusing, but I had some serious issues with it. First, the characters are all very similar-looking. Second, the lettering, as Zen 1337 said, is teeny, especially in the first panels. Was it just me, or did the art style change after that? Third... aaugh. The panels all ran together. In several places, I wasn't sure where I was supposed to look next... four panels would be laid out in a square, with all dividing lines perfectly in line...

Another thing I noticed was the sudden shifts in art styles, especially at the beginning. For instance, this page has Ferrah looking fairly impressive and intimidating in the first panel, then a rather goofy-looking shot of her in the next. It also seemed that the anatomy, especially the male anatomy, was kind of ignored in the first couple of pages.

The guy with the TV in his stomach was cool and inventive, but... everything else seems to be present-day with magic and such, until him. It kinda threw me for a minute.

Like people have been saying, the fight between the fox-lady and Ferrah was well-done. I particuarly liked the transformation of the fox-lady. Occasionally, especially when the fox threw Ferrah into a pile of boxes and Ferrah goes SD and waves her arms wildly, the goofiness doesn't work in the more serious fight scene.

I did, however, like the Vamp Squad PI quite a bit. It was goofy and drawn goofy, but without really taking away from the rest of the story.

Rating: Eh, I dunno. Not much -- kinda cute in places and fairly good occasionally, but not good enough that I'd follow it religiously. 4 out of 10.
Review by Tamlin Bowers Tue Jan 21 2003 02:10 PM


TENRAN KITSUNE: on Shifters

Okay, some very good points, both good and bad, about shifters have been brought up. In my eyes, Shifters is an amature's learning piece, where we get to see the creators stumble and grow in the various aspects of their craft. A good story and a sound enough plot will make up for a lot of bad drawing in my eyes, although all of these need work. Still, not too shabby compared to other amature starts I have read.

Like others, I feel that the story is becomeing detached from the reality of the high school background too soon. While it has been made apparent that Farrah had experienced tramatic events that changed her life in the past, there is little time for the reader to make the connections to her daily routine that would give us a deeper understanding of her new experiences.

Two scenes struck me as particularly incongruous, as there was little mention of the story being from a futuristic perspective other than those particular situations:
  • The bum with the television in his gut, who claims to have sold ad-space on his body in exchange for handouts.
  • The cables that shoot out of special housing units on the tops of buildings that are apparently there in order to attempt to safely catch crashing planes.
Both of these just felt rather odd when fit together with the rest of the story.

Well, I for one, am looking forward to watching this webcomic grow and improve over time.

As for reviewer status: I prefer to be listed as a guest reviewer. My posting tends to be too irratic for me to be able to promice weekly attendance. Sure, I may be able to participate promptly for a week or two, or perhaps longer, but how long until my next slump during which I hardly post at all?
Review by Tenran Kitsune Tue Jan 21 2003 07:16 AM

quote:
Originally posted by The Phantom Critic:


By far, the best sequence was the rumble between Ferrah and the jealous anthro-fox. The incident that set up the jealousy was well done, there was genuine suspense leading up to the battle, the fight itself had imaginative combat sequences, and it directly involved most of the main characters in an interesting way. Best of all was that it paralleled a believable high school incident but upped the ante to take it to the level of The Veil universe. The whole strip should be constantly playing off those kind of high school/Veil parallels. If the entire strip had been as good as that sequence, I could have forgiven a lot of the poor artwork.



You've got my agreement there, as well. It's also a good example of the aforementioned pacing in the fight scenes. Very well realized. I can see lots of possibilities for more high school/the Veil clashes (anyone remember Teen Wolf?)...but the series...up to the point I read...stopped with them about to go out to Alaska, which completely removes the story from the more grounded reality...and into this almost too fantastic world of the Veil. Too quick, too soon, in my opinion.
Review by Pendleton P. Pomeroy Mon Jan 20 2003 03:11 PM

I can't repost what I wrote, as I was blushing a fair bit removed it without thought. So let's start again.

Firstly, let me be honest about my biases. I enjoy Manga a lot, and will often forgive a great deal of what other mightn't if it's Manga. And there is cheescake. Something else I like in Manga. I don't expect it, but I like it, so don't expect this to be too objective.

Having said that, I'll re-iterate what I had said before. The introduction to Shifters follows a very predicable path. A VERY predictable path. One that I have seen its' variants of in many, many Manga before. There are little twists and turns, but there's nothing new on the ideas presented in the first three months.

Now then, that's the first three months, and here the story picks up. Shifters is at it's best when the story is around interpersonal interactions. I want to know what is going on with Ferrah and everyone around her. And I like the way that the bonding process is shown to directly colour personalities, instead of 'humans with fur' which I've seen all depressingly too often, so hats off for that.

And yeah, I enjoyed Vamp Squad PI as well. well, I have started to enjoy Vamp Squad PI. At first, I really didn't like them. But since the hospital scene, my respect has picked up.

Hokay, wrap up time. Without someone to point this out to me, I may never had read it. What I mean is, I may have come across it, and not followed-through. Shifters does not attract my attention sufficently. The story gets to be reasonable, but it's never going to be on my list of bookmarks.

Pub Rating: A pint of Caffreys, then it's their round next.
Review by Pingu the Great Mon Jan 20 2003 11:39 AM

I can't volunteer to be an "official" member of the club, as I can't promise that I'd have time to read an entire webcomic archive each week. But I will pop in every few weeks or so and offer commentary as I am able.

I did read the archives of "Shifters" and think it is an admirable effort for young or first-time creators, but not exactly something I would recommend to a comic aficionado.

LETTERING
Like everyone else has mentioned, the lettering was often illegible (particularly early on).

ART
The art was frustratingly inconsistent. On some pages the figures looked pretty good, never great, but sufficiently cute and humorous for the story line. But there were numerous pages of atrocious artwork throughout as well.

The only consistent artwork was the backgrounds, which were consistently awful. Much more attention needs to be paid to volume and perspective of props, vehicles and buildings. I'd rather see really simplistic, stylized, cartoony backgrounds that look clean, than the sloppy, half-hearted sketches offered here.

CHARACTERS
I wanted a lot more depth and exploration of what it would mean for Ferrah to suddenly discover that she was a part of this whole other world. Like Pendleton and Furilius mentioned, I wanted more "realistic" high school sequences to ground me in a believable world before getting me to swallow the Veil premise. "Clan Of The Cats" comes to mind as a webcomic with a comparable premise, but one that really took the emotional impact on the main character seriously. Even though this is more of a comedy, the characters have to convincingly respond to their circumstances.

STORY
I really did like the premise of the Veil--that there's this parallel culture of creature clans. It may be derivative, but as I'm not familiar with the works it's derivative of, that didn't bother me too much. But the execution of the concept was rather weak. I was often confused as to what exactly was going on as the story jumped from event to event and the tale seemed to shift awkwardly in tone from humor to melodrama.

The occasional use of profanity and excessive gore seemed unnecessary. It was jarring and inconsistent with the tone of the strip.

By far, the best sequence was the rumble between Ferrah and the jealous anthro-fox. The incident that set up the jealousy was well done, there was genuine suspense leading up to the battle, the fight itself had imaginative combat sequences, and it directly involved most of the main characters in an interesting way. Best of all was that it paralleled a believable high school incident but upped the ante to take it to the level of The Veil universe. The whole strip should be constantly playing off those kind of high school/Veil parallels. If the entire strip had been as good as that sequence, I could have forgiven a lot of the poor artwork.
Review by The Phantom Critic Mon Jan 20 2003 05:13 AM

A review of 'Shifters'
by Kajamir the Giant
(review will contain spoilers)

Where do I begin? Shifters is... a decent comic, but not anything better than that, sadly. I find I will continue to read it, but it won't be something I go out of my way for, in terms of what I will read first of my webcomic selections.

It wobbingly follows the blatantly White Wolf derived plot of some zooanthropes, or wereshifters, told mainly through learning of their own natures and mythology, with a sprinkling of contemporary scenarios. The speed of this comic varies a bit, to being truly slow at the start, picking up speed, and then carrying a truly long battle sequence. This is not a bad thing, I think, but it does lend an uneven quality. This is supported by the odd facets of quirky humor, to total seriousness for great stretches of time.

One cannot escape the copious amount of references being thrown at the reader. From the Team Rocket-like Vampire Squad with the leader of it being a Sephiroth knock-off in appearance, to the extensive use/fundamental basis of the White Wolf mythos, to the Kazuya (Tekken) hair styled bear shifter, it gets to be a little too much after a while. In some ways, it feels the comic caters more towards the anime-ish tastes of the creators, than a stand alone story and style. It's tolerable, but not something too admirable, like a chef putting too much pepper in a casserole. Enough, we can taste it already!

The art is passable. For the most part, it's cute, clean, and reasonably well styled at times. However, it is clearly americanized manga, not so much directly emulated japanese manga, the former which in my mind, carries a rather inferior look to it. I would also state, the B/W art looks much better than the on/off mediocre coloring. When it becomes B/W, you can see more art technique applied and the quality seems to increase to regular manga at times. But alas, it is not maintained. I should also like to add, at the beginning, the art is particularly sloppy every two pages or so, but this vanishes after a chapter or two.

The characters are fairly developed, though no award winners amongst them. Unfortunately, they do become confusing, at least at the beginning, to tell one from another. The anime styled hair and the jumping around of the plot, can make their stories, let alone identities, very difficult to follow. I'm all for many characters in a story, and while this doesn't touch anywhere near The Story of Genji, the characters that are presented here are simply not organized well at all.

A final, and truly unacceptable flaw of this comic, is particularly towards the beginning, the lettering is a nightmare; dare I say it, unreadable. It's squished, it's dark, I couldn't make it out in general.

The best part about Shifters, maybe even the only one, is the action scenes, which are pulled off very excitingly. From the whole train incident with the vandals and the otherwise ridiculous Vamp Squad, to the lengthy Were-vulpine battle, the comic particularly shows a little magic here. Neither scene is relegated to simple 1950's Batman styled punching and kicking. It is done a very fresh and exciting way, at least compared to the rest of the borrowed nature of the comic.

Shifters, again, is passable, but there's a lot of clumsiness about its execution that I couldn't look around. The creators might look upon Shifters as a public work/experiment, but hopefully, not as their magnum opus. It shows it's youth in design, and I would say, too much so.

I give Shifters a 3 out of 10.
Shifters would have been much better, even with the many crude errors, if it was something more original. As it is, it's more like wearing hand me downs. Worn, mediocre, and over used.
Review by Kajamir the Giant Mon Jan 20 2003 02:10 AM

The character bios were critical for me. I have trouble following who's who, especially when so many of the girls look exactly the same.

But anyways...onto my opinions.

I'll agree with Pingu. I had this distinct sense of been there, done that. I mean, how many anime/furry fans are out there doing comics? It seemed like a direct rip-off of Werewolf, though I admit I don't know the WhiteWolf games that well.

The art is typical manga fan art. The character designs are clearly inspired by anime and manga, but like most "American" manga that I see, the flow of panels is just all wrong. Forget text size. If I can't tell where to look next, I just get frustrated. It doesn't really improve, either. It's always hit or miss from comic to comic. The art does improve as it goes on, and you can tell the artist has been developing his skills.

Story wise, like I said, it's slightly derivative, in my opinion, but still entertaining. It was also surprisingly violent and adult. This is no kiddie comic, that's for sure. There's slight nudity and some pretty bloody scenes. There's also a smattering of rough language.

The balance between drama and comedy was right on. That alone kept me reading, as well as wondering when I'd see the Vamp PI's again. Better than Team Rocket, those two are. Of course, my favorite character was the one-shot O'Leary the leprechaun guidance counselor...but I'm weird, eh?

Basically, I enjoyed the comic for what it was. I'm fairly interested in the developing relationships...and boy are there a LOT of them. Plus, there's copious amounts of cheesecake. ^_^;;

All in all, not bad. It's worth a try.

My choice for the next week is Shaw Island. It's been recommended to me a couple times, though I've never got around to reading it. I hope this fits the criteria, Mr. Pitch. I don't spend much time on Keenspace, so I don't know what's out there. (I would have suggested Mariposa Revelation, but I wasn't sure if May would like that.)
Review by Pendleton P. Pomeroy Sun Jan 19 2003 04:27 PM

Shifters...

firts of all, i loved the artwork. it was excelent. that i will get out right off the bat.

one problem i had was the lettering however. at least on my screen it was a bit to small and was hard to make out.

the storyline did nt catch me very much and coupled with the hardness to read of the lettering i have to say it didnt hold me...

when i could follow the lettering the story i found a bit hard to follow...

however the art was great... if that was all i was looking for, this woud be an excelent cartoon... however, i am looking for slightly more...

i rate this a 2 stars out of five
Review by Zen l33t Sun Jan 19 2003 03:10 PM

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